super6 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 2017-5-19 at 6:52 PM, Toolbox Tam said: Shape of end of drawbar is different on Fordson from 5000 . 5000 type pins do not fit in Fordson drawbars , due to Fordsons having smaller hole in drawbar . Learn something new every day, drawbars are a different shape but I reckon you'd never tell from that picture if there was no pin in it. Just tried a pin and as you say larger on a 5000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 And a few more of the old yellow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 To those who know their stuff - your right, an original Britains Ford 5000 and dump trailer set. In my opinion, and many others it's the holy grail of Britains? I really hope you enjoy the pictures as much as I do, I appreciate every model I have but this steals the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Here was me thinking it was a Major all along . The one thing that got me thinking it may have been a Major & not a 5000 was the box . The imagery on the box actually shows a Fordson Major !!! I never new Britains used the same box when crossing over to the Ford 6X series ! All the same it's a very original example you have there Charlie . I would love one for my own collection . Great stuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udimore Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Git Git Git Think that sums it up really and you come to think of it I hate you mate Oh see you next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mf135 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Charlie you old tease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 18 hours ago, justy 46 said: Here was me thinking it was a Major all along . The one thing that got me thinking it may have been a Major & not a 5000 was the box . The imagery on the box actually shows a Fordson Major !!! I never new Britains used the same box when crossing over to the Ford 6X series ! All the same it's a very original example you have there Charlie . I would love one for my own collection . Great stuff . Morning Justin, yes the boxes were all the same, the only difference between this and the major box is the cut outs for the exhaust in the lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 13 hours ago, Udimore said: Git Git Git Think that sums it up really and you come to think of it I hate you mate Oh see you next weekend Aaaaargh thanks mate, love you too! ha ha !! Glad you like it, being a Ford man I thought it would be right up your street. See you at Heathfield. Forecast is good, 23 degrees! Lovely weather for a cracking agricultural show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 hours ago, mf135 said: Charlie you old tease! Shame you cant post videos - I could of added striptease music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Is that a recent acquisition Charlie? The only other one I have seen in that condition is this one (we featured it several years ago now in the magazine) Very nice all the same to have one or two nice examples definitely about there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Morning Andy, Yes very recent, collected it last week. i bought an un-boxed one in not so good condition a few months back and I didn't think I'd ever find one in a box. Thought it would be the one Britains that would escape me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 That is lovely Charlie, almost as rare as rocking horse poo I bought a cabless tractor a few years back, its on here somewhere, seen two cabs on an internet auction site but not managed to win one yet! One day...... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 5 hours ago, super6 said: That is lovely Charlie, almost as rare as rocking horse poo I bought a cabless tractor a few years back, its on here somewhere, seen two cabs on an internet auction site but not managed to win one yet! One day...... maybe. Thanks Paul, I never in a million years expected to find one like this, so complete, both clips, spade and cotton never removed from thier position on the box. Heres a few pics of the other one I bought a few months back, mice have eaten a bit of rubber on one of the wheels I think! Exhaust missing. And no box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tedroosevelt21 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 agree with thin paint job- its such a shame Britains never used the correct shade of yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Morning. Must admit I had just been enjoying the model, its general character, the box and the fact that one has been found like this, I hadn't noticed, or taken much notice of its poor paint. Cant have it all I guess can we. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mf135 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 12 hours ago, tedroosevelt21 said: agree with thin paint job- its such a shame Britains never used the correct shade of yellow What we have to remember is that although Britains called these models in fact these were toys unlike UH,weise toy and wiking of today and that the model/toy was a nearly going to be played with hard and get thrown away in a few years like the new type DDN Majors the paint didn't chip it stripped not just the industrial version. Believe you me I think I can be qualified to say after few models that I have made and sold over the years that the yellow colour is one of the hardest to get a good coverage my own models would get 5-6 coats of paint to build up a deep colour so with this information would Britains do this back in the 60's no! As for the colours you will find that Britains would paint models in what ever colour they had that day like some of the rare colour versions of discs,bamford balers,ploughs etc as I have a 4 furrow trailed plough in doweswell type light green. I personally think that had the model been painted to well I would have question it's originalty which I have no questions over this one being no less that 100% so that leaves one last question how many original boxed ones are left? I can tell you that I talked to another specialist farm model trader who has had more old Britains in the last 30 plus years than most and he has never had one of these very rare ford 5000 industrial models boxed what Charlie has best described as possably Britains models "Holly Grail". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 As martyn said , yellows a horrible colour to use, i have stayed away from two builds at least , down to that, thats using oem and others paints, it just doesnt go well , sure someone will say the opposite to this reply , someone always knows better afterall . Will you try and find some origonal parts and repair the unboxed one then Charlie? Its almost Worth buying a mint 5000 just for parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, mf135 said: What we have to remember is that although Britains called these models in fact these were toys unlike UH,weise toy and wiking of today and that the model/toy was a nearly going to be played with hard and get thrown away in a few years like the new type DDN Majors the paint didn't chip it stripped not just the industrial version. Believe you me I think I can be qualified to say after few models that I have made and sold over the years that the yellow colour is one of the hardest to get a good coverage my own models would get 5-6 coats of paint to build up a deep colour so with this information would Britains do this back in the 60's no! As for the colours you will find that Britains would paint models in what ever colour they had that day like some of the rare colour versions of discs,bamford balers,ploughs etc as I have a 4 furrow trailed plough in doweswell type light green. I personally think that had the model been painted to well I would have question it's originalty which I have no questions over this one being no less that 100% so that leaves one last question how many original boxed ones are left? I can tell you that I talked to another specialist farm model trader who has had more old Britains in the last 30 plus years than most and he has never had one of these very rare ford 5000 industrial models boxed what Charlie has best described as possably Britains models "Holly Grail". Some very good points there Martyn, dead right, things were somewhat different back in the early 60's to say the least. I hadn't even thought about the paint, the point is that one of these exists in a pretty mint box, with all the attachments down to the string. Who would of thought it? I really don't mind that the paint isn't 100%, and that it has the odd mark on it, proves its authenticity. The enjoyment here for all of us I think should be in the knowledge that its been found and shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Tractorman810 said: As martyn said , yellows a horrible colour to use, i have stayed away from two builds at least , down to that, thats using oem and others paints, it just doesnt go well , sure someone will say the opposite to this reply , someone always knows better afterall . Will you try and find some origonal parts and repair the unboxed one then Charlie? Its almost Worth buying a mint 5000 just for parts Hi Sean, I'm going to leave the unboxed one as it is mate, shows its 'lived a little', I might get a damp cotton bud and give it a clean / dust, but other than that it has a certain charm with its bits missing and bent, i think it deserves a display case of some kind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 while using yellow,you have to have a good base primer,it must be white,that does help some way to the yellow covering well,i wouldnt know if britains used a primer,but for new models its a must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 dont blame you, does keep its charm overall , so do you have the other version them charlie? the fordson one ? be intresting to see them side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tractorman810 said: dont blame you, does keep its charm overall , so do you have the other version them charlie? the fordson one ? be intresting to see them side by side. Yes got all three here, the yellow ddn major and the blue 5000 both mint in their boxes, I'll get all three together and take some pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermill Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just grabbed these pics off this topic from when I started it, also shows another old 5000 industrial I've got which is a bit battered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 8 hours ago, watermill said: Some very good points there Martyn, dead right, things were somewhat different back in the early 60's to say the least. I hadn't even thought about the paint, the point is that one of these exists in a pretty mint box, with all the attachments down to the string. Who would of thought it? I really don't mind that the paint isn't 100%, and that it has the odd mark on it, proves its authenticity. The enjoyment here for all of us I think should be in the knowledge that its been found and shared. Well this one looks restored. But its a darker shade alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 You guys still looking for a cab,http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Britains-unusual-Ford-5000-Tractor-and-Rotary-Tedder-in-Display-Case/122508044607?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44293%26meid%3Db0c74cb8666846918f8da868f8292c4f%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122513751929 Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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