chris.watson Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Very nice, neat quality work James. We run a Bailey 16 tonner, and you have done the brand proud mate.well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hielke Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Great to see this proces from drawing to actual build. The end result is stunning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 Overwhelmed by the responses to this topic, thank you! I think sharing info like this is vital to expanding the hobby. It was in depth step by step topics that allowed me to learn in the first place. On 6/26/2020 at 12:27 AM, Fenside MF said: Any chance of you selling kits at all James? Sadly not Jamie, to make a kit for something like this is as much work as making the finished articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenside MF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Stabliofarmer said: Overwhelmed by the responses to this topic, thank you! I think sharing info like this is vital to expanding the hobby. It was in depth step by step topics that allowed me to learn in the first place. Sadly not Jamie, to make a kit for something like this is as much work as making the finished articles. I was thinking along the lines of a bare bones kit as you get back from your printer, no tailgate rams and tipping rams supplied etc more for the advanced modeller,only asking as they are really good trailers James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Stabliofarmer said: Overwhelmed by the responses to this topic, thank you! I think sharing info like this is vital to expanding the hobby. It was in depth step by step topics that allowed me to learn in the first place. Sadly not Jamie, to make a kit for something like this is as much work as making the finished articles. How about creating and selling stl files,?? Regards Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Fenside MF said: I was thinking along the lines of a bare bones kit as you get back from your printer, no tailgate rams and tipping rams supplied etc more for the advanced modeller,only asking as they are really good trailers James I had considered this and it may be an option in the future, the issue arises when you put 'kit' to anything some people expect to be able to pull it out of the box and slap it together as easy as lego, regardless of what description you give it. If I find time next year I may tweak the current assembly errors and offer the laser cut parts though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 hours ago, catkom3 said: How about creating and selling stl files,?? Regards Joe. Price wise, to 3D print an entire trailer this sort of size, in a reasonable resolution would cost upwards of £250-300, which is simply too expensive for a product that you'll then have to prep for paint, assemble and finish. Once you've added all those cost, plus whatever I'd charge for the stl, say £20, your at a £400 model of a silage trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Other less costly one for you james would be to produce the plans, digitally or on paper, and maybe the wheels and sell it that way?? Set of instructions , meassurements along side, which could be traced out onto plasti card , build it your self so to speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPS Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Stabliofarmer said: I had considered this and it may be an option in the future, the issue arises when you put 'kit' to anything some people expect to be able to pull it out of the box and slap it together as easy as lego, regardless of what description you give it. If I find time next year I may tweak the current assembly errors and offer the laser cut parts though. 15 minutes ago, Tractorman810 said: Other less costly one for you james would be to produce the plans, digitally or on paper, and maybe the wheels and sell it that way?? Set of instructions , meassurements along side, which could be traced out onto plasti card , build it your self so to speak Both of those sound great ideas, particularly the plans and a wheel set......I’d definitely go for one of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipher172 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Definitely agree on the plans and wheel sets. I would actually be interested in just the wheels and mud guards if the plans aren't possible. I always struggle when building trailers to get the right wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipher172 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Stabliofarmer said: Price wise, to 3D print an entire trailer this sort of size, in a reasonable resolution would cost upwards of £250-300, which is simply too expensive for a product that you'll then have to prep for paint, assemble and finish. Once you've added all those cost, plus whatever I'd charge for the stl, say £20, your at a £400 model of a silage trailer. I never realised how expensive 3D printing still was. At least I don't need to learn how to use CAD just yet and I can be safe that plasticard and kraft knifes will be the cheapest way for a while to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 Some interesting ideas here, I've often debated including the scanned drawings/plans in build threads or making a website of them all as I have notepads full of stuff that's never got off the paper. I'd never charge for them as there's never the full details, just the rough shapes and sizes, the rest I make up/decide once there's something three dimensional I front of me. Will have a look at uploading some when I get home after summer on the farm. I see the forum has some sort of file/download store now, that could be the place for them. 6 hours ago, sipher172 said: I never realised how expensive 3D printing still was. At least I don't need to learn how to use CAD just yet and I can be safe that plasticard and kraft knifes will be the cheapest way for a while to come. I assume on a home set up you could plonk out a roughly Bailey shaped and sized blob of plastic for the price of a roll or two of filament with an FDM printer. But to be at a quality where the sides look like they're made of sheet material and not 1:32 corrugated cardboard you'd want a high resolution resin printer. Otherwise you could build one from scratch with the amount of time you'd spend sanding and filling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 With regards to wheels etc, I am currently starting too look at a pressure pot to improve the quality of my castings. This is mainly for figures as I intend to launch a range of them when time allows but there'd also be the added benifit of improving cast parts. This is something I'm exploring more as they prove to be the most profitable business option. A set of wheels have very little investment cost so would be happy to do commision builds for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 deffo a market for some decent figures, various working poses, different heights ect .will keep an eye out for them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Not to bad for a filament printer,Filament £28.99 a spool,?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3D-Printer-Silk-Rainbow-Multicolor-PLA-Filament-1-75mm-1KG-Multi-Color-Changing-/333168659825 Regards Joe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stabliofarmer Posted December 20, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 The purchase of a laser cutter meant that a Model Kit version of the Baileys became possible again, which is what I'm on with at the moment. A few photos of whats happening Kit contents Kits under construction Finished kits A huge pile of plastic that I've now got to sort into kits! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 looking good james, so is that 1 kit makes both versions or a separate kit for each? bit big for my stuff,prob break a tow hitch or two😆😆bit of wheelie popping on the hills, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Yes, the economies of scale break down if I was making a separate kit for grain and silage as you can't predict what people want more of. Therefore it works out cheaper to offer the parts to make both and be left with a few unused bits as I can just make the same kit in larger volumes. The instructions just guide how to build one or the other but it's certainly possible to modify it so the silage extensions are removable for anyone feeling adventurous! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil phoenix Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Excellent work James, where do we order😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Cheers Phil, I'll drop you a message 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stabliofarmer Posted December 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 A few more behind the scenes photos at Bailey HQ! Shadow boards for the 2mm and 3mm acrylic parts being cut Tyres, tyres and more tyres The casting station with rims, mudguards, grain chutes and tyres in production Hand cutting rubber sheet for mudguards Mesh applied to spare backing sheet that is removed from the acrylic before cutting All the side and floor sheets. As the laser cutter doesn't do 0.5mm plasticard this is all still cut by hand with a ruler and knife. Processed wheels packed ready for additional parts to be packed such as rams and pins. The wheels take some time as each rim must be cast, the flash cut off and cleaned up then the rim drilled to take an axle before being placed in a tyre and sorted into lefts and rights before packing. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenside MF Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 wicked, pm will be incoming to you James,great work very clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Some more Bailey behind the scenes, starting with the casting station. Moulds on the go in this shot include all the Bailey parts, rims, tyres, mudguards, grain chutes and casting alongside are some truck and small implement wheels which use any excess resin or rubber from a pour. I run 8 tyre moulds allowing for two trailers worth of tyres to be made per pour keeping up with the laser cutters cutting rate. On the subject of lasers, these are the shadow boards for picking out cut parts from a sheet, my little sister helps out from time to time and these sheets let her identify what to put in the parts boxes and what to bin. Not everything is cut by laser though, plasticard sides, rubber mudguards and scrim mesh are all cut by hand. Everything for the kits start to come together in bundles, here wheels, axles, pins, rams and grain chutes are bagged together. Mudguards are prepped by removing flash and then packing into boxes. Edited January 5, 2022 by Stabliofarmer 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Rams have always been a big set back. To cut the twenty required for the original models in this thread took over a days work and involves getting your fingers covered in paper cuts. The process has now been sped up using a diamond cutting tool in a dremel and diamond debur tool for drilling new holes. These give much cleaner cuts and are faster than hand pipe cutters and conventional drill bits. Now a batch if twenty rams can be cut down in just over an hour. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stabliofarmer Posted January 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 The earliest kits I did ended up costing me money as I was constantly sending out missing parts. To combat this shadowboards are now used to pack kits. A 1:1 scale 2D layout of everything required is laid on the table and parts are placed on top until every space is filled like a jigsaw. These are then neatly stacked to avoid postal damage. And wrapped in bubble wrap, they're pilled up in a box ready for final packing. The chaos of final packing. The box of the above plastic bundles is in the bottom left. A wheel pack, sheets, a straw and decals are added before packaging fills any extra space and the box is sealed. The contents of a kit, bar decals. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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