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What would be nice would be if Marge developed (easily) interchangable wheels. I am almost certain it would be feasible and cost effective. A county with its casual boots on but with the option of some heavy duty versions for when it gets particularly 'messy' perhaps. They are entering a testing market as it is so any selling point that warrants the higher price against the UH alternative, has to be worth consideration.

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Perhaps this was the base model for the County - it looks like it's a Dutch machine (I think)

http://www.tractorda...884-photos.html

The tractor has a belgian plate and apart from the bigger wheels a lot of features fitted afterwards (additional front weights with bracket, twin beacons etc.)

What would be nice would be if Marge developed (easily) interchangable wheels. I am almost certain it would be feasible and cost effective. A county with its casual boots on but with the option of some heavy duty versions for when it gets particularly 'messy' perhaps. They are entering a testing market as it is so any selling point that warrants the higher price against the UH alternative, has to be worth consideration.

Opted for that possibility already on the previous page 8)

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The tractor has a belgian plate and apart from the bigger wheels a lot of features fitted afterwards (additional front weights with bracket, twin beacons etc.)

Opted for that possibility already on the previous page 8)

there is no 1884 in Holland according to my sources and there is a Belgian collector of County tractors (has about 7) that has an 1884. Quite possibly is the one measeured, have to check with one of my friends if he got a picture of that one..

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Well spotted with the County pic. That must have been the tractor Marge used as their base model. But i reccon Marge will probably do a norm version too on normal tyres. They well get the most outa their moulds and tooling for this model just like they done with the 7610.. .. Just be a bit patcent when it comes out on realise to see if a second type comes on stream with normal tyres. 8)

As materafact rember the 1884 in New Zealand on floatations in the Classic Tractor mag a bit ago also.

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pictured this at lanark in 2010 not only the europeans that like the big boots

If they were fitted that size when new, I would suspect that one may have been used for drainage operations for forestry - specialised application ;)

You would only have found that size of tyre on a very small number of County tractors when new, and those almost exclusively in specialised operations, usually outside agriculture. Seeing an odd one or two in preservation fitted with silly sized tyres, doesn't overide the simple fact that they are not as 99% of people would recognise them ;) .

Looking at the photo of the Belgian one, I hope to goodness that MarGe don't faithfully copy the bonnet decal as it is on that tractor - a big lump of it is missing around the front end ::) I also rather hope they put the rear reflectors and their frames on the mudguards (which UH have left off their County, in spite of them being present on the Fords :- )

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is it me or does the cab look wrong on the roof on the super q tw 25. the front work light will come of obviously.

Do you mean the Q cab version? The front edge of the roof looks a bit odd but might just be the angle of the photo and I'm assuming all the holes are because it is a prototype.

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I don't think front mudguards were factory-produced until the Force II TWs

Yes, I could be wrong but I don't recall seeing many TW's or pre Force 2 Fords with mudguards at the front, certainly in the UK at least.

The first time I recall seeing them in the UK was on a '89 G plate 7810 SJ come to think of it.

If somebody knows for sure it would be great to clarify it before I go take them of my Marge 7610....

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I don't think front mudguards were factory-produced until the Force II TWs

Yes, I could be wrong but I don't recall seeing many TW's or pre Force 2 Fords with mudguards at the front, certainly in the UK at least.

The first time I recall seeing them in the UK was on a '89 G plate 7810 SJ come to think of it.

Front mudguards were a factory or dealer fit option for the UK market on the early Series 10 and the TW#5 series, but I don't actually recall seeing any fitted (they were rather expensive!). However, I don't think they had been available for the earlier TW10, TW20 or TW30. Options in other markets were sometimes different however. They weren't fitted as standard even when the Force II came out, although some farmers did spend the extra on having them fitted.

Apart from the farmer fitted front roof mounted ploughlamp (Ford didn't offer such a thing even as an option until the Super Q Force II came out).....

....the air pre-cleaner is also incorrect......

....I am pretty sure the side plate fastened to the engine rail was only fitted to the later super Q cabbed tractors......

and I have never seen any of the TW series sold without rear wheel ring weights (without them, none of the TW's could hold their feet if using all their pulling power). Ford only stopped fitting them as standard on the later 30 Series, which had the heavy Funk powershift gearbox, the weight of which made extra wheel weights unneccessary in most situations.....

....and whilst it's not actually wholly incorrect, most of the early type TW#5 series would have been supplied with the 6 point scolloped front wheel centres as I think the 4 point square GKN centres were only introduced in the last year or so of production before the Super Q cabbed Force II versions went on the market.

I would also like to know whether square headlights were ever actually fitted as original equipment, and if so, which market they were fitted for - ALL UK market TW's and 30 Series were fitted with round headlights ex-factory, and all the brochures I have seen show them with round headlights.

Otherwise, it doesn't look a bad model ;)

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MarGe:

We receive many questions about the headlights of the TW 25. We want to make clear that the square lights are NOT original, and have been replaced by round lights.

Thanks for letting us know!

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MarGe:

We receive many questions about the headlights of the TW 25. We want to make clear that the square lights are NOT original, and have been replaced by round lights.

Thanks for letting us know!

Well its good to know they are listening, which means they will deal with the pre cleaner c*ck up as well I hope ::)

Look, basically what we have here is a late generation 2 TW25 circa 1988-89 and Marge are attempting with the minimum of extra tooling costs to retro it into a generation one TW25 hence the front mudguard issue and front wheel styling that was not available until around 1989 TWs. You only see those style of wheels in the brochures on the 8730/8830 models by the way!

Im not having a go at them for this as most potential purchasers of these models are not diehards for correct detail like me :police: and a few others on here, so as long as its near enough , thats good enough to sell plenty ;D

So I will most definately buy the 1988 gen 2 TW25 with the super Q2 cab as apart from the pre cleaner its spot on :)

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