Niels Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 It is better than the screw but those caps are off front final drives the rear axle just has flat flenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 your right Niels,still does not look very good,im sure somebody will bring some decent ones out to cover the screws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 given wiking did magnetic front hubs, I cant belive they didn't do the same to that rear hole? seems odd to do half a job on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyfarmer1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 If you put the flat rear side of those caps in front and deepen the hole it will have flat flenges. For ease I prefer it like it's shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 real fendt 828,as Sean said,why didnt wiking do the back ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyfarmer1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Very simple. You can't take out a flat (magnetic) plastic cap covering a screw without damaging the plastic. (Yes these are plastic unsprayed rims ) Buy the way the front cap doesn't stick to the rear wheel as the rear screw is to deep to be in the magnetic field so a magnetic cover at the rear wouldn't work either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 ah yes, but if the screwdriver had a flat metal bit on the handle end, you could turn it round and bang the magnets grip to that and out they come??? if the fillers made like the old britains push fit wheel hubs ,ie a t shape, with a small magnet at each end, one for the screw the other for removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyfarmer1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 With IF's and THEN's you can solve every problem. First is to deal with the IF's. Don't see WIKING to change the included screwdriver for the next 5 years. Neither for the chosen open screw rear axle view on all new models (1050 ??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 do you think we will see new wheels for it sometime soon then?? it looks a nice model overall, not long ago I would have snapped it up, but its to new for me now, having just been up in the loft I don't have room for much more either :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyfarmer1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Additional wheel sets won't appear before 2016. Question is if WIKING will market them separately like the Fendt/John Deere/Claas/Valtra frontloader accessoires or if they will include them only in separate (limited) edition sets like the orange John Deere 7430 with front loader accessoires or the Claas Arion set with blade and salt spreader. Then you will be forced the buy the sets. For sure the convo specialist like www.farmmodels.nl , www.t-toys-nazareth.be and others will come up with tailormade solutions with metal (sprayed) rims and better fitting tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 It's certainly a clever idea, just seems odd if they don't do the wheel sets to make the most of it, the convo guys will make a mint out of it that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 if you go to your local claas dealer they will still have them for sale @£108 there are 230 still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendt Fahrer Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It is better than the screw but those caps are off front final drives the rear axle just has flat flenges. but you know big tractors like this should have long axles. Axle duals are so much better. Here in North America that is the norm and Fendt sell all their tractors with axle stubs. The choice is yours: long or short, anyone that plans to run the tractor with duals will order the long axle. I was really skeptical when I purchased my first long axle tractor, but now I know that I would never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well Markus, Fendt are not allowed to sell tractors with stub axles over here! Why? Massey Ferguson have the sole right to that solution. You see them more and more on (heavy) tractors these days because it is much easier to change track widths and change wheels. However, MF you can order with stub axles (only short ones) but Fendt nope. They won't do you one! In Germany you can. I know of a few farms that bought second hand 820s from Germany with stub axles. I reckon they don't in the UK as well. CNH will get you the long stub axles if you want, but that isn't road legal. My problem is that all manufactures use a different axle size!! When I sold New Holland a new T7.220 was delivered to a contractor that ran some MF 7400s on stub axles. Turned out their MF wheels wouldn't fit on the NH.... On another note, I don't know if I should post it here or put it somewhere else but: I am looking at changing the wheels under my Wiking Fendt 828 discussed earlier. I don't want them silly big but need to be decent for 280 hp. Does anyone have any thoughts about what to fit?? I was thinking Xerion 5000s on the rear but what to put on the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendt Fahrer Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Thanks Niels for clearing this up. I have to agree that those tires need to be better and sincerely hope that Wiking will do much better on the 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Thanks Niels for clearing this up. I have to agree that those tires need to be better and sincerely hope that Wiking will do much better on the 1050. Amen to that Markus,THIS is what they should look like, :) Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well Markus, Fendt are not allowed to sell tractors with stub axles over here! Why? Massey Ferguson have the sole right to that solution. You see them more and more on (heavy) tractors these days because it is much easier to change track widths and change wheels. However, MF you can order with stub axles (only short ones) but Fendt nope. They won't do you one! In Germany you can. I know of a few farms that bought second hand 820s from Germany with stub axles. I reckon they don't in the UK as well. CNH will get you the long stub axles if you want, but that isn't road legal. My problem is that all manufactures use a different axle size!! When I sold New Holland a new T7.220 was delivered to a contractor that ran some MF 7400s on stub axles. Turned out their MF wheels wouldn't fit on the NH.... On another note, I don't know if I should post it here or put it somewhere else but: I am looking at changing the wheels under my Wiking Fendt 828 discussed earlier. I don't want them silly big but need to be decent for 280 hp. Does anyone have any thoughts about what to fit?? I was thinking Xerion 5000s on the rear but what to put on the front? You could try Mr Seltens lovely aluminium wheels for the 828 Niels, ;) http://www.farmmodels.nl/Webwinkel-Product-14154714/39006-F+B-Set-%28Xe+MF%29-Brede-Banden+alu.-velgen-in-Fendt-rood+-spatborden-en-eindvertraging-Fendt-828-936-939.html Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Those are BIG boots on that Fendt !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 That Fendt 1050 just looks ridiculous!! I would happily take a new Xerion in preference every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendt Fahrer Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 That Fendt 1050 just looks ridiculous!! I would happily take a new Xerion in preference every time. I am a Fendt fan, but I have to agree. There is no way that a row crop tractor will be able to put that power effectively on to the ground. Plus the Xerion looks better as well.....That said, I still will get a 1050 Model for me.It's just a must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 don't mind fendts, looks wise they are great, but that thing just looks wrong, like its been on steroids ? just out or proportion all round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You could try Mr Seltens lovely aluminium wheels for the 828 Niels, ;) http://www.farmmodels.nl/Webwinkel-Product-14154714/39006-F+B-Set-%28Xe+MF%29-Brede-Banden+alu.-velgen-in-Fendt-rood+-spatborden-en-eindvertraging-Fendt-828-936-939.html Regards Joe. They look good Joe but there is no way I am going to pay €85 for a set of four tyres and some glue!! (I could be Scottish ). The model cost me €39 to start with... Mind you a set of Xerion tyres costs €30. Will have another look round for something decent and affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've just had a look through Fendts web site and found a press release about the 1000 Vario,the tyres were specially developed for the machine 2.35 mtrs tall,!! The Fendt 1000 Vario. German Meisterwerk. The Fendt 1000 Vario is a completely newly developed standard high-horsepower tractor from the Fendt brand. With a new power class from 380 – 500 hp, it has been specially designed as a powerful draft tractor for the global market. It convinces through its compact design and the new x5 S cab, including the award-winning, fully integrated Fendt Variotronic. In addition to compliance with the legal regulations of emissions Stage 4 / Tier 4 Final, AGCO/Fendt has equipped its new 1000 Vario tractor series with the latest engine and transmission technology. The new Fendt high-horsepower tractor will be available from dealers in the fourth quarter of 2015. Powerful and globally aligned – the Fendt 1000 Vario The Fendt 1000 Vario is a standard tractor, which, like all Fendt series, is distinguished by ease of operation and simple handling. It has a maximum height of 3.60 metres and an unladen weight of 14 tonnes. Compared to conventional design concepts in the 500 hp power class, it is considerably lighter, more manoeuvrable and has better visibility, which makes it clearly more versatile. The Fendt 1000 Vario is designed for a wide range of applications: despite being developed for heavy-duty field work, it is absolutely roadworthy, with a top speed of up to 60 km/h. Thanks to newly developed, large tyres (diameter at rear up to 2.35 metres) and flexible ballasting, the high-performance draft tractor is highly efficient in putting power to the ground. Together with the integral tyre pressure regulation system VarioGrip, this enables a significant increase in pulling power. The Fendt 1000 Vario was developed for the international market. With a 60-inch track, it has also been designed for row crop markets, such as North America or Australia. The rear power lift is available in an American version with a quick-hitch frame or swinging drawbar. The new high-horsepower tractor is also available as a pure draft tractor in a version without a rear power lift or, optionally, with a reversing driver station. More visibility and even more comfort - the new x5 S cab The well-known x5 cab from the Fendt 800 Vario – 900 Vario series has been completely redesigned and, as the x5 S cab, now offers considerably more working comfort and improved climate control. The interior panelling has an easy to clean soft-touch surface with a pleasant feel. For enhanced operating comfort, the cockpit now swings parallel along with the steering wheel. Due to the size of the Fendt 1000 Vario, the side windows and windscreen have been lowered by another 80 mm for optimal sightlines and a generous sense of space. Furthermore, additional storage spaces have been integrated in the cab and there are more drink and document holders. The driver door to the cab is 85 mm wider. There are two different positions possible for the step treads, so the entry steps can be adapted to the tyres. Roof work lights with cross-wise illumination, which prevents shadows on the roof of the cab, provide especially precise illumination. The integral lights on the bonnet give the Fendt 1000 Vario a new, powerful look. A powerful air-conditioning system with twin blowers and its own fresh air blower ensures perfect climate control. A new, higher air flow, evaporator and 16 air nozzles create a pleasant climate in the cab and provide uniform, low-draft ventilation. Twelve integrated air nozzles in the steering column and an optional heated windscreen made of laminated safety glass ensure a clear view. The 300° windscreen wiper with integral spray nozzle in the wiper arm, familiar from the 800 and 900 Vario, ensures a free view to the wheel arches in all weather conditions, and is assisted by an additional 250° wiper including spray nozzle on the right side window. A camera integrated in the Dieselross emblem on the bonnet offers best visibility to the front mounting area. An optional leather seat with heating and active climate control ensures the best sitting comfort. The new passenger seat can be used as a fold-down table and has a clamp fitting for documents. Additional sockets on the right-hand side open a host of possibilities in terms of power supply and data exchange with implements and external terminals. Furthermore, an active cooling function has been integrated in the side compartment in the new x5 S cab. Powerful and dynamic - optimal coordination of engine and transmission The Fendt 1000 Vario will be available in four different power configurations: Fendt 1038 Vario (380 hp), Fendt 1042 Vario (420 hp), Fendt 1046 Vario (460 hp) and the top model Fendt 1050 Vario with a maximum output of 500 hp (to ECE R24). The design of the block construction unites maximum payload with optimal manoeuvrability. The high-horsepower tractor is equipped with a compact 12.4 litre six-cylinder engine from MAN. The powerful, quiet engine proves itself more than 25,000 times every year in the commercial vehicle sector. High torque, which is already available in the low speed range, gives the vehicle high driving dynamics. The engine is compact, the common rail high-pressure injection ensures outstanding atomisation and combustion and therefore low fuel consumption. The time-tested, stepless Vario transmission has been further developed to the transmission-rear axle module TA 400 (transaxle) for an output of up to 500 hp. It has hydrostatic-mechanical power-splitting and is marked by extreme profitability, maximum efficiency, long lifetime and reliability. The rear PTO, which features a direct drive from the engine through to the PTO gearbox, has outstanding efficiency. The tractor-management system TMS, with automatic maximum output control 2.0, automatically controls the ground speed and engine speed dependent on load. The effect: the target speed is reached quickly and kept constant, driving is more dynamic, even under load, and, when required, immediate acceleration is possible through the kick-down mode. To meet country-specific market demands, the Fendt 1000 Vario will be offered with a top speed of 40, 50 or 60 km/h. A comprehensive chassis and safety concept (VarioGrip, Fendt Stability Control, independent wheel suspension, dual-circuit brakes, Reaction steering system, assistance systems for deceleration and brake light) guarantees maximum safety on the road and in the field. Efficient and low follow-up costs - hydraulics and power lift The new Fendt 1000 features high-capacity hydraulics with two highly efficient hydraulic circuits. Two independent axial piston pumps can meet the demands for different flow and pressure levels in the two circuits according to need. Thanks to filter monitoring, the maintenance interval for the hydraulic oil is 2,000 operating hours or 24 months. This long interval further reduces maintenance costs. The transmission and hydraulic oil supplies are separate. The oils cannot mix, which guarantees active transmission protection. It is therefore possible to use bio-hydraulic oils for the working hydraulics. The lower links at the rear can be brought into park position without requiring tools and there is more clearance between the lower links and the drawbar. Regards Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAINH1973 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Ballasted up this tractor could weigh 21 tonne. To keep within the law could only pull 10 tonnes on uk roads!. Looks like a conventional tractor but limited applications in uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Im sure I will be very impressed when I see a 1000 at work, just as I was with the Xerion 5000, Quadtrac 600 etc, etc.......................but for all their bells and whistles they lack charisma, mainly due to being so heavily automated. Im glad Im switching my modern tractor model fleet for early 90s machines, man and tractor in perfect harmony, sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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