bigbear Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Today, I opened one of my cabinets to look at some of the Britains tractors in there and was greeted by a vinegar like smell. Upon closer inspection, I noticed the tyres on several tractors have a whitish residue on them. I can wipe it off, but am a bit worried about what it might be and if it signals the possible demise of my tyres!!! There are only Britains tractors in the cabinet and the ones affected are John Deere 4020, both versions and some of the Ford tractors - 5000, 6600. Has anybody got an answer to this and will I like it ) Cheers, JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Ive noticed the same thing on a few Britains tractors too. Them being the, Ford TW-10 & 20, MF 1505, JD 8440 & the Ford 7000.. The TW-20 is the worst.. Strangely enough ..my own 2x 5000s ..both norm & yellow Industrial version are ok as is the cabless 2wd JD 4020 John.. So it is a strange occurrence John .. Id like to get an answer also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I am sure this has come up before , good while back and I think it was mentioned that it was the release agent from the moulds that seems to react , or stay on the tyres . Comes out after a while , just can not seem to find the topic it was in now unless it was on the old server and never made it across in the switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I have noticed this happen to new Britains tractors in shops also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I am sure this has come up before , good while back and I think it was mentioned that it was the release agent from the moulds that seems to react , or stay on the tyres . Comes out after a while , just can not seem to find the topic it was in now unless it was on the old server and never made it across in the switch Is it a cause for concern Sean do you think or is it nothing to be worried about..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I honestly can not remember what the verdict was now, it does wipe off from memory but over time comes back I think , seem to remember someone mentioning wiping the tyres down with soapy water like you would when you resin cast before painting as that broke the agent down ?? But it was a good while back now this came up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have the same issue as well mainly with Britains models and a few Ertl. The new Ford TW are the worsed by far!! Oddly enough the older Fords are fine here and also the articulated tractors and JD 4020. Can wipe it off easily but does come back every time? Well the older models from Britains also have issues mainly with the rims melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Here is an example .. My Britains MF 1505. I cleaned one wheel ..to compare it to the other side.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 That's it exactly! I also have the same problem with some of my Doctor Who figures, (guilty secret...), which have a thick creamy coating after a couple of years. This does wash off too, but is creeping back. I'm just a bit concerned that it's a plasticizer from the actual plastic or something that is leaching out, because of the vinegar smell I got, but until somebody gets a definitive answer, I guess it'll be down to washing them off and ventilating the cabinets every now and then! Just got to hope that the plastic isn't going to disintegrate sooner rather than later... (A good opportunity for somebody to market stable replacement tyres?) Sean, do you have enough contact with Britains to ask them a direct question about this, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I believe it's a hardener in the plastic that seperates after time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 That's it exactly! I also have the same problem with some of my Doctor Who figures, (guilty secret...), which have a thick creamy coating after a couple of years. This does wash off too, but is creeping back. I'm just a bit concerned that it's a plasticizer from the actual plastic or something that is leaching out, because of the vinegar smell I got, but until somebody gets a definitive answer, I guess it'll be down to washing them off and ventilating the cabinets every now and then! Just got to hope that the plastic isn't going to disintegrate sooner rather than later... (A good opportunity for somebody to market stable replacement tyres?) Sean, do you have enough contact with Britains to ask them a direct question about this, please? jon,just go to tomys website,i have contacted them several times,and allways get a reply,or i can ask for you,but better to ask them your self mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0025 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 i dident buy anything with the "white walls", but it doesent matter, i wonder the effect on weathered models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 That's it exactly! I also have the same problem with some of my Doctor Who figures, (guilty secret...), which have a thick creamy coating after a couple of years. This does wash off too, but is creeping back. I'm just a bit concerned that it's a plasticizer from the actual plastic or something that is leaching out, because of the vinegar smell I got, but until somebody gets a definitive answer, I guess it'll be down to washing them off and ventilating the cabinets every now and then! Just got to hope that the plastic isn't going to disintegrate sooner rather than later... (A good opportunity for somebody to market stable replacement tyres?) Sean, do you have enough contact with Britains to ask them a direct question about this, please? not personally john, but as paul said just e-mail them direct, I have been looking for the topic when I can and I can not find it , but am pretty sure that the white residue was put down to being the release agent ,not a break down of the tyre material like the older models do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.watson Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I use car detailer called "back to black". Get it from halfords, works great for me. Sean is right, this has been talked about before somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 I think I remember that thread too, but can't remember what was said... age has disadvantages, it seems! I've emailed Tomy/Britains and have so far received an automated message to acknowledge my email. I'll let you all know what happens next. I can't really believe that it's a breakdown of the plastic, as some of these models are only a few months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972farming Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 My 1/16th UH Fordson Major has the same thing on its tyres so its probably something to with Chinese rubber ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Faulty Chinese Rubber, I guess that explains the huge population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 I emailed Tomy just after the advice above came in and got a computer generated acknowledgement, but nothing since. Looking on other toy forums it generally seems to be regarded as either a problem with mould release agent residue, or some sort of rubber decay. I'll just clean mine up and hope for the best, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 the release agent doesn't effect the rubber from memory dave ,it just doesn't come off properly, sure simple hot soapy water worked as well as any else , I know when I resin / rubber cast stuff that's all I do for paint etc, sure scaledown kits tell you the same info to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 31 Oct: No response from Tomy to my email re. this. Ho-hum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 " ho hum" mmm you sound like santa john :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 31 Oct: No response from Tomy to my email re. this. Ho-hum... try them again John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I went into a toystore 2 weeks ago that would stock large amounts of Britains & I would say 60% of the tractors they had were suffering from this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 " ho hum" mmm you sound like santa john :laugh: :laugh: These days, I LOOK like Santa too - in fact I have two bookings to BE Santa before Christmas! The perfect excuse NOT to lose weight until the new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Tried Tomy again but never did get an answer to this. Maybe they don't know the answer either? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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