BC Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I am trying to get insurance for Cerin to drive Flossie at rallies but they won't cover people of his age. Has any one got any advice on this? thanks from Jo Nowadays most rallies I attend don't allow anyone to drive any type of vehicle they don't hold an appropriate license for. So in the case of a tractor that would be 16 assuming one has passed ones tractor test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Lovely buy there Cerin - no stopping you now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 If you are under 16 years of age and do not hold a provisional driving license and have not passed your test you can't drive a tractor either on the road or on a show field or rally. You can only drive a tractor on your own premises at the age of 13. You can only get insurance in your own name for a vehicle, in this case a tractor, when you have attained your 16th birthday and would have to be insured by a parent or guardian who's name would be on the policy as 'the insured'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 But Dads insurance covers public liabilty for any one over the age of 13 to drive the tractor with and i qoute "With either the land owners or event/show organisers permition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boys Mum Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 But Dads insurance covers public liabilty for any one over the age of 13 to drive the tractor with and i qoute "With either the land owners or event/show organisers permition Are you sure about this Adam? Who is the policy with ? - would be really grateful to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 The ruling has changed I'm afraid for rallies regardless of what you have printed on your insurance policy and you cannot drive a tractor on the site without having passed your test regardless of your age weather or not you have the landowners permission. In these instances it is considered a 'public place' and the highway laws come into effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON. Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Very tidy tractor you have got yourself there Cerin ;) if it carries on like this Sean i'll be the only member without a tractor to his name :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leakeyvale Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Cerin, as promised here is the contact details for my local Ferguson Group who put on demonstrations and static displays with the grey Fergies in Hampshire. I know this is out of your area but they can probably point you in the right direction for Somerset Friends of Ferguson Heritage (Hampshire) - Dave Piper 07775 611616 (think he is the secretary) Debbie Goddard 02380 600967 I am also annoyed that I missed the show last weekend. I thought it was this coming weekend. Grrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 What a wee beauty Cerin and a spreader too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I have insurance through/with Walker Midgley Insurance Brokers. Cost is based on so much for every £1000 of sum insured, less than £10 this year Permitted Drivers and Use for road driving is any person with permission and aged 17 or over with cat. F on licence. Drivers under 17 or without cat. F are permitted to drive anywhere other than on a road. The policy holder can also drive other vintage tractors not belonging to them so long as not leased or on HP (with permission of course ) Permitted classes are 1. use for SDP including the carriage of passengers(?) 2. Agricultural purposes 3. Rallies, shows, working demonstrations, competitions and road runs 4. Towing Comes with £5 000 000 public liability and legal expenses cover As powerrabbit, I don't think you can drive around a showground, aged under 16 or without cat.F, as a public place/highway for the purpose of insurance I believe, although my insurance seems to contradict that statement. People do though, through ignorance I suspect, but ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. I hope this is some help to you Question for anyone, is cat.F for 16 year olds or does everyone have to take this now? Mine came automatically when I passed my car test, quite, a few years ago, along with up to 7.5T trucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 The ruling has changed I'm afraid for rallies regardless of what you have printed on your insurance policy and you cannot drive a tractor on the site without having passed your test regardless of your age weather or not you have the landowners permission. In these instances it is considered a 'public place' and the highway laws come into effect. Sorrry Jo for the delay. Are you sure about this, as our insurance Nfu CLEARLY state that if you are over the age of 13 with the landowners/organisers permistion you can drive a tractor on the show ground. I have been driving tractors on the show field since i was 13 well a bit younger to be honest and never had any problems. Most shows, if you resposiable will let you drive on the field or round the ring etc if your 13 at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I have insurance through/with Walker Midgley Insurance Brokers. Cost is based on so much for every £1000 of sum insured, less than £10 this year Permitted Drivers and Use for road driving is any person with permission and aged 17 or over with cat. F on licence. Drivers under 17 or without cat. F are permitted to drive anywhere other than on a road. The policy holder can also drive other vintage tractors not belonging to them so long as not leased or on HP (with permission of course ) Permitted classes are 1. use for SDP including the carriage of passengers(?) 2. Agricultural purposes 3. Rallies, shows, working demonstrations, competitions and road runs 4. Towing Comes with £5 000 000 public liability and legal expenses cover As powerrabbit, I don't think you can drive around a showground, aged under 16 or without cat.F, as a public place/highway for the purpose of insurance I believe, although my insurance seems to contradict that statement. People do though, through ignorance I suspect, but ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law. I hope this is some help to you Question for anyone, is cat.F for 16 year olds or does everyone have to take this now? Mine came automatically when I passed my car test, quite, a few years ago, along with up to 7.5T trucks I think it comes with a car test, however you can pass your tractor test a 16 and drive on the road, i drive on the road now at 16 with my Cat f so i cant see how thats illgeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think it comes with a car test, however you can pass your tractor test a 16 and drive on the road, i drive on the road now at 16 with my Cat f so i cant see how thats illgeal My, paper, license states minimum age as "17, + note" whatever that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boys Mum Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thanks very much to everyone for their help with this - we have decided to go with super6's suggestion of Walker Midgley Insurance Brokers - cheapest quote by far at £36.65 - fully comp with accidental damage. And they seem to know what they are talking about! However, I can't get anyone to quote for Cerin to be insured Adam! I tried the NFU and they said no way, and so did everyone else - it's a bit of a mystery isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 !UPDATE! Now got a 2 furrow plough for free, ploughing matches here i come ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 !UPDATE! Now got a 2 furrow plough for free, ploughing matches here i come ;D free :o - you lucky lucky fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boys Mum Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Cerin does not mention his mothers ace haggling skills I see ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Don´t know how i this niss this topic You have there a beauty, i hope you will have a great time with the Te/20. Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 plough as well, blimey mark has been on about a plough for ages now, and you get one in 2 months, bet you get ploughing quicker than mark to eh cerin, nice work by you, or your mum and her skills mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 !UPDATE! Now got a 2 furrow plough for free, ploughing matches here i come ;D and i bet you can plough straighter than the Lord himself!!! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 can you honestly... and I mean honestly now.. name someone who can plough worse than me :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 i'm sure i could give it a go! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 free :o - you lucky lucky fella Yep Don´t know how i this niss this topic You have there a beauty, i hope you will have a great time with the Te/20. Texas Thanks texas i will plough as well, blimey mark has been on about a plough for ages now, and you get one in 2 months, bet you get ploughing quicker than mark to eh cerin, nice work by you, or your mum and her skills mind well it isnt operational yet Yep thanks and i bet you can plough straighter than the Lord himself!!! ;) i exspect so Well up-date today: we have been digging the plough out and have some pictures of it but will have to put them on later as i cant resize them Its defently gunna need work, i dont know what make it is and what parts are missing so i will need every ones help once i get pictures on. My plans are to cut all the nuts and bolts off it and replase with new and wire brush it all down paint it up and get it looking nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Ok here it is in all its glory (rust) So anybody know the make as we dont have a clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkelfergus Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 any better photos,.....like out in the daylight mr.C............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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