Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Not as yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 bound to be a makers plate or mark somewhere cerin, certainly not a make i reconise right away mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 bound to be a makers plate or mark somewhere cerin, certainly not a make i reconise right away mind We have looked and looked theres nothing Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intey 434 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 never seen a plough like that in my life! havent a foggiest what make it is \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 never seen a plough like that in my life! havent a foggiest what make it is \ Yeahh the thing we cant understand is where the toplink would go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkelfergus Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 right mr.C,.........whats puzzling me is that box affair at the front of the plough, have never seen anything like that, and imagine flossies arms attached to the lower pins,..............right,......how the heck is that square box going to fit between her arms .Its going to be pretty tight in there; the front of the plough is going to be nearly touching her ar*e end, ........if you see what I mean............ ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 right mr.C,.........whats puzzling me is that box affair at the front of the plough, have never seen anything like that, and imagine flossies arms attached to the lower pins,..............right,......how the heck is that square box going to fit between her arms .Its going to be pretty tight in there; the front of the plough is going to be nearly touching her ar*e end, ........if you see what I mean............ ........... yeah its confusing, but it must be for some sort of tractor as its got the bars for the link arms but not reali much for the top link \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 top link i guess just goes between the holes at the top of the frame, loads of paly sideways on it mind looking at the width of it. also is it just me or are the boards the wrong way? looks almost left hand ploughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intey 434 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 no sean the boards are the right way it must be a very early model plough, the frame work is not unsimilar to an early ransome \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffithsbros Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 hmm that will keep your brain going trying to figure that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkelfergus Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'm pretty sure the "antiques roadshow" are filming in your area soon Cerin. Take it along,............... maybe they can shed some light on it.......... ;D ...!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/32 farmer Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 cerin i think your plough might be a randsome but its not fixed via 3 point link age but towed and where it looks like it fixes to the 3 point link age is where wheels go to control the depth i will cheek with my brother in law as he probly had one from new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick a Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 cerin i think your plough might be a randsome but its not fixed via 3 point link age but towed and where it looks like it fixes to the 3 point link age is where wheels go to control the depth i will cheek with my brother in law as he probly had one from new going by the small amount of paint left on it ,it could be a fisher humphries plough. some implements used behind david browns used four point linkage i believe. any david brown fans on here know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'll send this link to Tim (Powerrabbit).. he's a David Brown specialist.. and a hugely knowledgeable chap as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick a Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'll send this link to Tim (Powerrabbit).. he's a David Brown specialist.. and a hugely knowledgeable chap as well GOOD MAN I KNOW DB USED CONVERGING THREE POINT LINKAGE , BUT BELIEVE SOME IMPLEMENTS USED TWO TOP LINKS. THE LACK OF DEPTH WHEEL ON THE PLOUGH IS PUZZLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow legs Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 sorry to say but i dont think you will be off ploughing in a hurry with that one, i would look out for a proper fergi one. you did well getting it for nowt thoe, you could maybe do a swap for a fergi one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Sorry chaps and chapesses, I've not been following this topic for a while but thanks to Mark I'm now up to speed with it. Anyway, looks to me like a Ransomes plough that has several parts missing so hard to tell wheather it was a three-point mounted or a trailed plough. If the 'cross-shaft' is in the correct position, it is too far back the frame and any lift arms would never reach it but, as said, it could be that there should be a couple of iron spoked wheels on it and the ends being cranked, like on a normal mounted plough for the arms, would make more sense as when the plough is in work, you would wind in the sideways 'handle' (or out) to level up the plough for even depth furrows. There is no 'lift' mechanism on it that would consist of an eccentric 'dog' plate and a lift handle that would come under the 'axle' to lift the plough out of work or any drawbar hitch mechanism. If ever anyone sees a similar plough complete, it would be a good idea to post up a picture for comparison. As for David Brown ploughs being 'four-point linkage', I see where you're coming from, I think you may be visualising the early 3-point linkage plough on the VAK1 up to the Cropmaster where there was another link mechanism bolted to the left lift arm with a winding handle on it that connected to a lug on the cross-shaft for ajusting the width of the front furrow. This was discontinued around 1950 when the next model of plough had both depth/land wheel and the cross-shaft ajustment winding handles mounted on the plough headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boys Mum Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 You guys are amazing! Am I right in saying then it's a kind of 'bodge job'? Would people have converted their ploughs to what they had available to pull them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 You guys are amazing! Am I right in saying then it's a kind of 'bodge job'? Would people have converted their ploughs to what they had available to pull them? Yes most certainly they did. The plough for my Nuffield was converted from a trailing plough to a lift plough I was told by my uncle who used to drive my Nuffield and plough with this plough and a Newlands one he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 well done Tim... I knew we could rely on you... that's why I love this place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 When hydraulic lift began to appear on tractors in the late 1940's, because of the War there were no ploughs being made with hydraulic lift coupling and the farmers still had their old trailed horse and tractor drawn ploughs, new ploughs were not being manufactured because of the shortage of iron but plough shares and wearing plough parts were as we still had to till the land to feed the nation and it was some time before ploughs were manufactured for 3-point linkage so when tractor lift did arrive, a lot of farmers had their trailed ploughs converted to lift and this was invariably carried out by the local blacksmith who also did the majority of farm machinery repairs and fabrications and in doing this for farmers later led to the natural progression of the blacksmith supplying farm machinery and later on tractors, this is when dealerships and agricultural suppliers started to spring up. I bet that anyone who looks far enough back into their local dealers history that their predecessors started their buisness as blacksmiths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks very much everyone for the info and help But it dosnt look like i will be ploughing any time soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick a Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks very much everyone for the info and help But it dosnt look like i will be ploughing any time soon done a bit of research on ploughs found out there was a company called s m wilmot from bristol. they produced a quick -adjustable plough. its believed it bolted to the tractor with hinge? and quote had hydraulic ram to hasten its entry into the ground. a screw handle made it a simple matter to set the furrow width between 9 and 12 inches in no time at all. unfortunately there are no pictures . does your plough have holes for lynch pins on end of crossshaft?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 done a bit of research on ploughs found out there was a company called s m wilmot from bristol. they produced a quick -adjustable plough. its believed it bolted to the tractor with hinge? and quote had hydraulic ram to hasten its entry into the ground. a screw handle made it a simple matter to set the furrow width between 9 and 12 inches in no time at all. unfortunately there are no pictures . does your plough have holes for lynch pins on end of crossshaft?. Yes it did, but it dosnt matter now as some one took that plough I got a proper fergy one now Just a littel update, got flossie out today and shes still going might have to split her at some point as the clutch is a bit dodgy but other than that alls good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 So when is the first match then Cerin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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