pj witch Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Im of the opinion that whatever the model and whoever is producing it someone will always find something that could be improved or isnt right. I have ordered one because its Britains and its a ford but mainly because it is ok for the money and will look good with the rest of my collection. I will continue to buy all the new releases whether perfect or not but then thats just me, although i have just started aquiring some blue conversions now where as before it was purely britains been buying britains for 30+ years and will contine to as 90% of my collection is britains i,m not going to change if there are a few duff models , for the money the 5000 is not that bad a modal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 I see your a Massey man FB, question is would you buy a Britains 165 for example, built to this standard? Yes it needs improvements that is certain, but no one else is catering for 1/32 classics at this price level. Let me know if they are I agree with that.... I know I would but a 165 in this standard.. without reservation... It is what it is (this ford)... life's not perfect... and it looks a darn sight better than some models I have seen.... and (talking purely about quality and detail level)... bought as well \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 i havent got a 5000 yet, i will get one but only because i drove the real tractor if Siku had built a 5000 i would not bother with RC2 as i know i would get better value for my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 from a coversion point of view its a good base to start. as a model to put on a shelf its ok . but i tink its a step back.i've heard the reason for it not moving is down to detail , but i think thats wrong. they had the front axle of the jd that they could of used .so they wasted money there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 from a coversion point of view its a good base to start. as a model to put on a shelf its ok . but i tink its a step back.i've heard the reason for it not moving is down to detail , but i think thats wrong. they had the front axle of the jd that they could of used .so they wasted money there. they only had to make a new center part to be truthfull the right style, and the outer jd bits will finish the job,but yes the jd axel would have surficed, 1972(steve ) has proved that already, with ease to, my convo of sorts proves the base axel is usable to if wanted, if i had a spare jd axel i would have used the ends from that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Here is a different take. It is 1/32, it is blue, it is a classic Ford. It has 43 parts (18 for Britains) It costs ?5.99 That mk1 Escort looks good to me. Where did you get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellarian Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Saico - They do a few variants. Mine came from a model shop in Ilfracombe but loads on E bay, on line stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH885XLMAN Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Just watch Ebay tomorrow night ;) ;) I know someone who has done somthing else to these tractors having seen a pic of one today tweeked up it will look the muts-nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerepower Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 was talking to the manager of the local toyshop today and he was saying how much trouble he's having selling the ford 5000, he got 12 in and only sold 5 of them (I've had 5 of them ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 There is a shop near me that are selling the new 5000 for ?8.95. Think I may get a few, keep them for a while and put them on Ebay in dribs and drabs. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueford Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi Fans and collectors from Ford Models, I?m disappointed about the new Britains Models 5000/6600. Why? 1. no Steering 2. Grill without Brilliant lights 3. The linkage is not correct, Britains Implements doesn?t fit, for Example my old tipping trailer is not compatible with the hitch, the whole at the trailer to small? No could?nt be, because all of the tractors from my collection are suitable. So I think the hitch is not correct. 4. the front wheels are to big 5. no Driver 6. the cab is not bad, but the older cabs have more realistic details, Example the door handle and the door hinges 7. I think the sizes are not correct This is not a progress, everyone is advice to buy an old Britains Ford and restore. Than you have better models with functionable hitch and linkage and more realistic. I?m to 95 % a Britains collector, but the Model from Siku of the Deutz D8005 showed the way, which a manufacturer can go. An excellent modell, with a perfect steering and a small price. This should be motivation for Britains to make better models. I got 2 FTF Models 6600, for my opinion later than planed, but thats OK. I know about problems with China shipping. But I send two mails to Andy, because one of the models had no air filter in the package, very big disappointment. And no Answer from Andy, how long I must whait for the Air filter? I hope Britains will go a new way like the 70s, the older Britains models where even better than siku and UH today. So I?m in hope! Blueford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks for your comments blueford, I recieved your email and interestingly, only a small handfull of models have returned with faults on them. I sent you an email and you have a replacement model on its way to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerepower Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I have noticed the finish on the 5000's can be a bit on the poor side at the local toy shop they have some with bad finishing on the mudguards (dirty marks and glue) so I now get discount on them (well if you dont ask you dont get) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike R Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I agree with all you Britains collecters entirely but this seems to be aimed at the younger collecter dont you think cheap less bits move or come off also i dont think the new current britains manufacturer is up to making those great early models we all love and would want to buy now if they still were made in the same way. what ever they do now isnt going be anything like the real mcCoy. I wonder how many of the new toys made now will be around in say 30 years to the Britains older models you can see the quality and the amount that are still here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hello, I also made the mistake of purchasing the new Ford 5000 in spite of the controverse discussion, as I was just too curious. Well, I am also not pleased with the resulats and think my new Ford will go to Ebay more or less soon making place for another original Ford 5000 modell, which was far better in my eyes. I can only repeat some previos comments, but here is what makes me really angry: - The modell is some three steps back behind the original modell for a much higher (relative) price then in the 1970s (was for around half the price then). - No front steering (unbelievable)! - No brilliant lights - Flickering front wheels - steep engine exhaust - the worst linkage I ever saw on a real 1:32 tractor, almost completely unsuitable for playing, only to used as a static modell - no driver THE RESULT: Britains have maybe tryed a compromise between a modell and a toy, but this thing is neither a good modell nor a useful toy! To recap, in spite of beaing German I always liked Britains more than SIKU because in my childhood, Britains where the only farm modells available and they had lot of charm. However, I think I will more rely on SIKU soon because, of (in general) better quality (even my three years old son can use my diorama modells from time to time and they stand it, while the new Britains modells do not), more detail, better linkage (although this could be improved too) and more charm ? Good-bye Britains (will only buy your modells, when there is no alternative, e. g. the rather nice New Holland baler, but e. g. John Deere tractors only SIKU from now on!)! Of course, I will not buy any sub-variants of this bad modell (7000, 6600, 7600 or what ever). I will now look for purchasing a FTF 2006 tractor of the year modell, any modell on offer, anyone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS135A DRIVER Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hello, I also made the mistake of purchasing the new Ford 5000 in spite of the controverse discussion, as I was just too curious. Well, I am also not pleased with the resulats and think my new Ford will go to Ebay more or less soon making place for another original Ford 5000 modell, which was far better in my eyes. I can only repeat some previos comments, but here is what makes me really angry: - The modell some three steps back behind the original modell for a much higher (relative) price then in the 19,90s (was for around half the price then). - No front steering (unbelievable)! - No brilliant lights - Flickering front wheels - steep engine exhaust - the worst linkage I ever saw on a real 1:32 tractor, almost completely unsuitable for playing, only to used as a static modell - no driver To recap, in spite of beaing German I always liked Britains more than SIKU because in my childhood, Britains where the only farm modells available and they had lot of charm. However, I think I will more rely on SIKU soon because, of (in general) better quality (even my three years old son can use my diorama modells from time to time and they stand it, while the new Britains modells do not), more detail, better linkage (although this could be improved too) and more charm ? Good-bye Britains (will only buy your modells, when there is no alternative, e. g. the rather nice New Holland baler, but e. g. John Deere tractors only SIKU from now on!)! Of course, I will not buy any sub-variants of this bad modell (7000, 6600, 7600 or what ever). I will now look for purchasing a FTF 2006 tractor of the year modell, any modell on offer, anyone??? Hello Richard. Thanks for supporting the already large and growing band of unhappy collectors who don't like this model. It just shows how unhappy collectors worldwide are with this less than accurate and unrealistic model. Britains take note you're loosing customers with these substandard models. It's time to pull up your ideas or face the consequences. Buyers will abandon your models for other manufacturers who can and do produce the quality of models the buyers want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH885XLMAN Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hello, I also made the mistake of purchasing the new Ford 5000 in spite of the controverse discussion, as I was just too curious. Well, I am also not pleased with the resulats and think my new Ford will go to Ebay more or less soon making place for another original Ford 5000 modell, which was far better in my eyes. I can only repeat some previos comments, but here is what makes me really angry: - The modell is some three steps back behind the original modell for a much [glow=red,2,300]higher (relative) price then in the 1970s (was for around half the price then).[/glow] - No front steering (unbelievable)! - No brilliant lights - Flickering front wheels - steep engine exhaust - the worst linkage I ever saw on a real 1:32 tractor, almost completely unsuitable for playing, only to used as a static modell - no driver THE RESULT: Britains have maybe tryed a compromise between a modell and a toy, but this thing is neither a good modell nor a useful toy! To recap, in spite of beaing German I always liked Britains more than SIKU because in my childhood, Britains where the only farm modells available and they had lot of charm. However, I think I will more rely on SIKU soon because, of (in general) better quality (even my three years old son can use my diorama modells from time to time and they stand it, while the new Britains modells do not), more detail, better linkage (although this could be improved too) and more charm ? Good-bye Britains (will only buy your modells, when there is no alternative, e. g. the rather nice New Holland baler, but e. g. John Deere tractors only SIKU from now on!)! Of course, I will not buy any sub-variants of this bad modell (7000, 6600, 7600 or what ever). I will now look for purchasing a FTF 2006 tractor of the year modell, any modell on offer, anyone??? Take in to account the British rate of inflation over the last 25 years and you will find its quite cheaper than the origional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 For us the new modell is more expensive here in Germany: old modell 1977: around 10 marks = 5 Euro new modell 2007: 20 Euro = 40 marks Conclusion: even considering the inflation much more expensive, and thus less value for more money ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 By UK inflation, a 1977 tractor worth 5 euros would now cost 24.8 euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 No matter what is the relative price compared with the old Ford modell - I am totally piddled off with this new Ford Tractor now, as this morning I tryed to link it with the old blue two-wheeled Britains silage trailer and it does not fit with the new linkage. > I am now even thinking of sending the modell back to my online-salesman, as the modell is almost useless!!! I recommend to everybody not having purchased the new modell yet - let it be, this is the worst modell of Britains I held ever in my hands!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Just to prove my observations - here are two pics taken right now: 1. bad linkage allowing not to link firmly a original 1978 silage trailer from Britains and allowing for a bad turning circle only 2. flickering and far too large front wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh, the old grass mower does not fit either!!! I'm going mad, FTF should have warned everybody of that modell!!! ;-))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH885XLMAN Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 farmer near us wanted to borrow our PZ mower one time The tractor was a JD 6200 I cant remember if he had his wheel track setting to 72" or not ,Anyway he he hitched up to the mower and took her to the field 15 miles away tried to put the mower in to operation position and could not because of the track setting on his tractor due to the right hand rear wheel being too wide \ my boss said have he normaly uses the vicon trailed mower but that was being repaired as he tried to cut tree stumps half a foot lower : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard de Florennes Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 farmer near us wanted to borrow our PZ mower one time The tractor was a JD 6200 I cant remember if he had his wheel track setting to 72" or not ,Anyway he he hitched up to the mower and took her to the field 15 miles away tried to put the mower in to operation position and could not because of the track setting on his tractor due to the right hand rear wheel being too wide \ my boss said have he normaly uses the vicon trailed mower but that was being repaired as he tried to cut tree stumps half a foot lower : So Britains gave us the opportunity to repeat this nice story in 1:32? But honestly, even if the tractor looks like a Ford and the other modell like an old PZ mower - they were both made by the same manufacturer called (RC) Britains and they should take into consideration that tractors should fit the implements, even if they are 30 years old ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 So Britains gave us the opportunity to repeat this nice story in 1:32? But honestly, even if the tractor looks like a Ford and the other modell like an old PZ mower - they were both made by the same manufacturer called (RC) Britains and they should take into consideration that tractors should fit the implements, even if they are 30 years old ... mines now sporting a siku hicth richard, lot easier to use now, along with a fe other minor modifacations to her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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